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Old Jun 02, 2007, 07:11 AM // 07:11   #1
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Default A/R 4 second spike build
OK! this build i made up takes usually 4 seconds to take down a target w/o buffs


dagger mastery 12+1+3
critical strikes 6+1
deadly arts (cant remember but rest of points go on here)


Heres the build

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Black Spider Strike
Horns of the ox
Black Lotus Strike
Blades of Steel
Impale
Expose Defences
Assassin's Promise
Lightning Reflexes

First use Both hexes then charge up use lightning reflexes (for speed and 75% block) and use the attack skills in order and theres almost 100% death rate for your target


I also use this build in PvE but i use Death Blossom instead of horns of the ox


Tell me how you like it
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58   #2
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http://www.pvxbuilds.com/index.php?t...entless_Spiker
You changed one skill, I believe.
Also I notice you're not carrying any kind of res: Thats the kinda stuff that makes people abhor assassins.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56   #3
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OH! never saw that...i came up with this off the top of my head...and i use this mainly for PvE so i dont need res since im mostly doing 4 man HM with heros
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #4
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I would pump critical strikes to 8...6 critical strikes gives one energy on criticals.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41   #5
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4 seconds is not a spike.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #6
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4 seconds is not a spike.
Stupidest post ever. You've no idea what a spike is.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03   #7
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It's not pressure either. For a sin, it's a spike.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19   #8
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Stupidest post ever. You've no idea what a spike is.
Whatever. you can believe what you want to believe. If you want to believe that hitting a whole bunch of buttons in succession is a spike, that's fine with me.

If this is a spike build then so is a warrior with 8 attacks skill on his bar.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12   #9
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dagger mastery 12+1+3
critical strikes 6+1
deadly arts (cant remember but rest of points go on here)

A/R
Black Spider Strike
Horns of the ox
Black Lotus Strike
Blades of Steel
Impale
Expose Defences
Assassin's Promise
Lightning Reflexes
Why wouldn't you swap Twisting Fangs for HotO to add a deep wound, bleed, and increase the chance of killing your target, and allow you to drop impale for a res sig?
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17   #10
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Whatever. you can believe what you want to believe. If you want to believe that hitting a whole bunch of buttons in succession is a spike, that's fine with me.

If this is a spike build then so is a warrior with 8 attacks skill on his bar.
Most spikes *are* "hitting a whole bunch of buttons in succession." This assassin *alone* is not really a spike, it just possesses a high-damage attack chain. I personally don't consider the build a spike, but it could be used as such if needed.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04   #11
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4 seconds is not a spike.
Rofl @ You...........
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30   #12
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[skill]flurry[/skill] or [skill]tiger stance[/skill] is way better than [skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill] on a assassin
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51   #13
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Stupidest post ever. You've no idea what a spike is.
You're an idiot.

That is not a spike nor a good build.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40   #14
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You're an idiot.

That is not a spike nor a good build.
Why hello random dumbass I've never talked to before. Go do some reading.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spike
Maybe it's not the definition *you* have of spike inside your tiny brain, but it's a spike.
I never said its a good build.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #15
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Please stop failing. 4 seconds is not a spike. Old-school RSpike in 1/4 second was.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17   #16
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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spike
Maybe it's not the definition *you* have of spike inside your tiny brain, but it's a spike.
I never said its a good build.
"A spiker is a player who inflicts massive amounts of damage to a single target in a short period of time"

sadly, 4 seconds isn't exactly a short period ot time, and thus, can in no way be a spike. it could be a PART of one, but that's not what the OP posted..

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Please stop failing. 4 seconds is not a spike. Old-school RSpike in 1/4 second was.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54   #17
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Please stop failing. 4 seconds is not a spike. Old-school RSpike in 1/4 second was.
complete failure to realise that spike is used in two ways in guild wars, and a team spike is only one of them, and a completely worthless one in the context of a single player build at that.

The other one refers to something like [skill]Devastating Hammer[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Crushing Blow[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill]. It's spread over a longer duration - by necessity, it's simply impossible for a single player to spike from full health a player with the damage compression that an entire team can manage. Hence the term spike as used in a team context is worthless in this context. Hence it has here a different, equally valid, meaning.



I haven't played the OP build but stuff like that owns pve.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09   #18
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That's not a spike, that's just hitting something repeatedly in a short period of time.

By definition, a spike has to come as part as a team, because for a spike to succeed, it actually needs to kill shit, and if a character can instagib a 100% character down to 0 in a short period of time, then that's imbalanced.
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #19
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I know spike sounds cool and all, but that aint it >.>
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Old Jun 03, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #20
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You're an idiot.

That is not a spike nor a good build.
Holy crap...I think you're on my friends list. That makes possibly two people I personally know from in-game that I've seen on the forums. Oh well...back to the topic at hand-

The OP's build could be used *in* a spike, but no, it is not a "spike" if we are defining "spike" by how one is conventionally done in HA/GvG. Impale on it's own makes a rather good prequel to a spike (BLS, HotO, Impale/teamspike) because of the mileage that you get out of the Deep Wound condition.
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